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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:20:00 -
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If you concider me a vet or not if you like me or not I could care less...
What people who are in PC and care about PC realize is.... KDR NO LONGER MATTERS. I will go 0/20 if it wins the fight.
What matters is what pops up as the end of a fight VICTORY OR DEFEAT. I repeat for serious people that care about PC now. I. Strictly talking about PC. Not pubs.
LOOK guys I will give you will this.... All this talk about this weapon is op or this weapon is op simply doesn't matter in PC.....
For the thinkers out there think about this ill omens have been around for what 3 months now we have taken and held every district(with our allies of course) my point is I'm not working with the gun game imps have or anything like that its not needed.....
Thinkers and LEADERS are needed.....
I could go on I miss my forum drama just want to give the community food for thought use it how u like...
Very last thing...... About kdr and best corps.... For the most part the best corps will remain on the PC map that is just a fact. Take that to the bank.
Edit last comment was not a threat to current and future enemies. |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:23:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:Are you drunk? Well PC has put the community in prospective for me and I would like to help. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:41:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:If you concider me a vet or not if you like me or not I could care less...
What people who are in PC and care about PC realize is.... KDR NO LONGER MATTERS. I will go 0/20 if it wins the fight.
What matters is what pops up as the end of a fight VICTORY OR DEFEAT. I repeat for serious people that care about PC now. I. Strictly talking about PC. Not pubs.
LOOK guys I will give you will this.... All this talk about this weapon is op or this weapon is op simply doesn't matter in PC.....
For the thinkers out there think about this ill omens have been around for what 3 months now we have taken and held every district(with our allies of course) my point is I'm not working with the gun game imps have or anything like that its not needed.....
Thinkers and LEADERS are needed.....
I could go on I miss my forum drama just want to give the community food for thought use it how u like...
Very last thing...... About kdr and best corps.... For the most part the best corps will remain on the PC map that is just a fact. Take that to the bank.
Edit last comment was not a threat to current and future enemies. If you need to validate yourself by posting about KDR is meaningless, then thats wrong and it actually still means allot to you, just stating you will go 0/20 is like coming out the closet that your KDR will soon fall to scrub level, but ITS OK!!! Because i posted about it being meaningless... yeaaaah .....no not really... your very right sir I'm a horrible player and soon my kdr will be a .10
Ur pointless troll is lost on me so where I would normally forum warrior battle you to death, this time ill simply refer your eyes to the star map and look at ill omens(now I could not have done it without my awesome corpmates/alliance member ).... I'll just stop here dummy.
Writing this I have wasted enough time on fools if u want to prove me wrong without being a child about it I'm game but more post like this will prompt no response from me. Except to have u refer to w/e number this is.
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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:42:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:You guys attacked us and didn't take or win! (Course we attacked back and didn't take anything or win too!) haha good times good games! Very good battles ill omens are having lots of fun thank you
Plus one bro from me. They are hard to get |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:55:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:These are forums me, you & others can't really prove anything on them. Please refer to #5 also very weak come back :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:02:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:KDR Is still pretty important.
Don't lose clones you scrubs. Easy when your in a tank Teehee Jason I hate your tanks bro lmao can't wait to fight u again today gonna be fun. |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:07:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:KDR Is still pretty important.
Don't lose clones you scrubs. Easy when your in a tank Teehee Jason I hate your tanks bro lmao can't wait to fight u again today gonna be fun. What times our fights today? Got meetings throughout the day so I don't know if I'm going to be there :( Might have to quit my job and take this up fulltime :P Hmm one is at 6pm est(in that hr window) for sure didn't really bother to check the yet I think it's after cant be see ill see when I wake up. Make it if u can, if u can't I sure there will be other chances. :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:09:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:These are forums me, you & others can't really prove anything on them. Please refer to #5 also very weak come back :) Wasnt a comeback and posting your KDR doesnt mean a thing,i dont care about your KDR and i dont care about mine, but a hell of allot of people care about theirs. Just making a thread about it means you do care. Quite frankly, the game would have been allot better without that single statistic. Refer to #5 |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:16:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:KDR Is still pretty important.
Don't lose clones you scrubs. Easy when your in a tank Teehee Jason I hate your tanks bro lmao can't wait to fight u again today gonna be fun. What times our fights today? Got meetings throughout the day so I don't know if I'm going to be there :( Might have to quit my job and take this up fulltime :P Then u Know how I feel lol. Eh u wanna have a cease fire so we can get back to work and make some money to buy an elite merc pack lol... I want one
Plus one for being the second cool cronos dude :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 17:28:00 -
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Morning. |
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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.05.21 18:24:00 -
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Tac Com wrote:Nikia, there is some truth to what you say but you vastly overstepped your bounds with your wording.
K/D is not important in the grand scheme of things, team victories are what matter in Conquest. Silly tricks like padding your K/D by sniping the AFKing will certainly not help you hold districts.
But K/D does matter on a smaller scale. If you are building out a team and you have a selection of combat troops, some with very high K/D who you know get those in natrual combat because of their excellance, then they will take priority over lower ranked players. You want to build the best 16 you got and sometimes when you're kitting out a slayer role in your team, how efficiantly they can kill people without loosing you clones is important. Even dedicated logis and scouts with moderate to high K/D usually doesn't mean they get lots of kills, often it means they don't die a lot so that also helps significantly.
Another thing you have to keep in mind, 20 deaths is potentially 20 clones lost. Being 100k a clone, that's 2 mil lost in bodies. And if you loose enough clones in meatgrinders, after repeated attacks you'll find yourselves loosing to clone loss. Clone efficiancy is the name of the game. You hold the majority of the points, while making the moves that looses you the least amount of clones in the process. That is how you make money.
At the end of the day, it's the ISK that matters, and you get ISK by not dying, and securing your district. I didn't read all this because I don't know who u are and by saying I over steppes my bounds u need to explain as far a I know I can say w/e the hell I like but if its not a troll and u can explain in shorter wording I have time to read ill entertain it. |
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Posted - 2013.05.21 18:41:00 -
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Tac Com wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Tac Com wrote:Nikia, there is some truth to what you say but you vastly overstepped your bounds with your wording.
K/D is not important in the grand scheme of things, team victories are what matter in Conquest. Silly tricks like padding your K/D by sniping the AFKing will certainly not help you hold districts.
But K/D does matter on a smaller scale. If you are building out a team and you have a selection of combat troops, some with very high K/D who you know get those in natrual combat because of their excellance, then they will take priority over lower ranked players. You want to build the best 16 you got and sometimes when you're kitting out a slayer role in your team, how efficiantly they can kill people without loosing you clones is important. Even dedicated logis and scouts with moderate to high K/D usually doesn't mean they get lots of kills, often it means they don't die a lot so that also helps significantly.
Another thing you have to keep in mind, 20 deaths is potentially 20 clones lost. Being 100k a clone, that's 2 mil lost in bodies. And if you loose enough clones in meatgrinders, after repeated attacks you'll find yourselves loosing to clone loss. Clone efficiancy is the name of the game. You hold the majority of the points, while making the moves that looses you the least amount of clones in the process. That is how you make money.
At the end of the day, it's the ISK that matters, and you get ISK by not dying, and securing your district. I didn't read all this because I don't know who u are and by saying I over steppes my bounds u need to explain as far a I know I can say w/e the hell I like but if its not a troll and u can explain in shorter wording I have time to read ill entertain it. That's fine, you don't have to read it. But it doesn't really add to your point or your character by putting such a reply. You can also say whatever you wish, but if you read it you will know what it is about. And if you are either unable to read or have difficulty reading due to the length, then I would suggest using another medium then the forums. The first line is to grab your attention, seems it worked ;) guess I have my answer refer to #5
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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.05.21 18:56:00 -
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Tac Com wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:guess I have my answer refer to #5 The one thing you need to keep in mind is the information you are presenting. There are certainly roles which will come out with a low K/D. But often the key to those roles is not to improve thier K/D, but to simply reduce the number of deaths. 0/20 is not a stat I'd like to see in a Conquest battle. 0/5 for a dedicated Logibro is perfectly fine as long as his/her aid assisted in keeping their teammates alive. As an example, if I have a scout that I want pressuring a backhack location, I will still pick someone I know who can get a good number of kills, but for him and myself, his K/D does not matter. Causing enough damage/hacking to get the job done does. K/D matters, but it's not the stat which governs the decision. If you are going to be in battlefield strategy for Conquest, then you're on the right track but you just need to refine your ideas. the whole point of the thread it to give good consul for PC. Again I skimmed what u said 30 mins til a fight... My point is people need to think about what I said in a round about it ur taking it literally u will miss the point. I spoke in code because I'm not giving away the way I play my PC battles or how I run the corp...... Just need between the lines and take ego out of the whole thing. If not i could care less ill omens. Are winning fights based off what I have said here... Are you?
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Posted - 2013.05.22 05:49:00 -
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:20:00 -
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pwnzortank wrote:I'm in agreement I want to win like kobe or like mj if I can help the team to win by killing then that's a bonus but victory over all is my goal Thank you for understanding plus one. |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:43:00 -
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Eisen Sonnet wrote:Tac Com wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:guess I have my answer refer to #5 The one thing you need to keep in mind is the information you are presenting. There are certainly roles which will come out with a low K/D. But often the key to those roles is not to improve thier K/D, but to simply reduce the number of deaths. 0/20 is not a stat I'd like to see in a Conquest battle. 0/5 for a dedicated Logibro is perfectly fine as long as his/her aid assisted in keeping their teammates alive. As an example, if I have a scout that I want pressuring a backhack location, I will still pick someone I know who can get a good number of kills, but for him and myself, his K/D does not matter. Causing enough damage/hacking to get the job done does. K/D matters, but it's not the stat which governs the decision. If you are going to be in battlefield strategy for Conquest, then you're on the right track but you just need to refine your ideas. I was going to post something like this in response. You absolutely nailed it though. It's not about personal K/D it's about overall K/D for your team. I think that's what Nikia was getting at. yes and no.. just think about it if your all going 3/7 5/5.. and so you get the point checkes are you going to lose, but what i'm saying basically to get it "barney" style for the community. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORRY ABOUT K/D WHEN YOUR FIGHTING PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER YOUR GOING TO FING DIE GET OVER IT.
and that's my point sir. :) |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:28:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:Eisen Sonnet wrote:Tac Com wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:guess I have my answer refer to #5 The one thing you need to keep in mind is the information you are presenting. There are certainly roles which will come out with a low K/D. But often the key to those roles is not to improve thier K/D, but to simply reduce the number of deaths. 0/20 is not a stat I'd like to see in a Conquest battle. 0/5 for a dedicated Logibro is perfectly fine as long as his/her aid assisted in keeping their teammates alive. As an example, if I have a scout that I want pressuring a backhack location, I will still pick someone I know who can get a good number of kills, but for him and myself, his K/D does not matter. Causing enough damage/hacking to get the job done does. K/D matters, but it's not the stat which governs the decision. If you are going to be in battlefield strategy for Conquest, then you're on the right track but you just need to refine your ideas. I was going to post something like this in response. You absolutely nailed it though. It's not about personal K/D it's about overall K/D for your team. I think that's what Nikia was getting at. yes and no.. just think about it if your all going 3/7 5/5.. and so you get the point checkes are you going to lose, but what i'm saying basically to get it "barney" style for the community. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORRY ABOUT K/D WHEN YOUR FIGHTING PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER YOUR GOING TO FING DIE GET OVER IT. and that's my point sir. :) Took you long enough to make that point though...from your first post i made it out to be something completely diffrent. I agree, whoever worries about their KD rating "during" a game is a try hard, you see them all the time in public matches they will only fight when they have the advantage and leave if they dont have it. Worrying and analyzing what went wrong after a match in self reflection is fine in my book and knowing where and what you did wrong. My own fault witch ive been unable to correct since the start is my inability to perform a tactical retreat and when i am being overun, i can take out a couple, sometimes i take em all out but one wrong move and we r a clone shorter. I do wonder how many Pro's with a high KDR are not doing any PC because they will face though opponents, my guess is allot. yes now we see eye to eye. And u get a plus one.
The reason I was to cryptic. Is because I don't believe in spoon feeding everyone. Also I don't want people knowing how I really think. The more people that think the leader of ill omens is just a loud mouth the better... Trust me.
But I had to get to the point to stop people from getting the wrong idea.... I guess though I keep re reading it and I don't see how u could take it any other way... But thanks for understanding. |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:35:00 -
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Max Packer wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:
yes and no.. just think about it if your all going 3/7 5/5.. and so you get the point checkes are you going to lose, but what i'm saying basically to get it "barney" style for the community. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORRY ABOUT K/D WHEN YOUR FIGHTING PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING TOGETHER YOUR GOING TO FING DIE GET OVER IT.
and that's my point sir. :)
You'll go crying back to your KDR leaderboard after getting trampled by the Goonfeet on Thursday night! Beefcake! - message to goonfleet- I understand y u keep pointlessly trying to troll me believe me I got it. But I have orders orders on high to leave you alone.... For now.... But they never said you can't attack me us first :)
So the battle for Thursday is off. Not my choice I follow my leader.... When he makes sense. -end of message- |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:46:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:yes now we see eye to eye. And u get a plus one. I read your first post like so... Rich people says that money is not important Beautyfull people says that beauty is on the inside Awsome Slayer says KDR is meaningless If you understand where i am getting at. I'm a bit confused. ATM it's late I will think on it and reply on the morrow:)
Please no one answer this one is mine. |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 07:47:00 -
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Max Packer wrote:NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: - message to goonfleet- I understand y u keep pointlessly trying to troll me believe me I got it. But I have orders orders on high to leave you alone.... For now.... But they never said you can't attack me us first :)
So the battle for Thursday is off. Not my choice I follow my leader.... When he makes sense. -end of message-
reply - you work for a spineless corp that has no faith in your KDR and hasn't the sack to send you in anyway like the disposable hero you are. Nova Knife your boss, inform the board of your takeover and bring it on Thursday. -Packer out. Ill make sure this gets the bosses full attention....
It's funny. We took on two ALLIANCEs in a week. And won our home gound and you think one corp could scare us at all. If u were smart u will stop. I doubt it and I don't want to provoke more harsh words from you just realize I launched the attack on u by mistake and leave it at that if u want to call ill omens coward I could care less. cronos could step on u and not even notice.... So why should we |
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